Comparison of Mesoamerican and Animistic Analog Systems of the Northwest Amazon

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Starting from Descola's ideas (Par-déla Nature et Culturc: 2005), we make a comparison between an analogic system, the ~Vahuas from Mexico, and the systems from the Northwest Amazon that create problems in the classification because -altough described as animists- they resemble the analogists o...

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Autor: Otaegui, Alfonso Manuel
Formato: artículo
Fecha de Publicación:2008
Institución:Pontificia Universidad Católica del Perú
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Lenguaje:español
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Materia:Animism
Reciprocity
Analog system
Analogism
Analogismo
Animismo
Reciprocidad
Sistema analogismo
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dc.title.none.fl_str_mv Comparison of Mesoamerican and Animistic Analog Systems of the Northwest Amazon
Comparación de sistemas analogistas mesoamericanos y animistas del noroeste amazónico
title Comparison of Mesoamerican and Animistic Analog Systems of the Northwest Amazon
spellingShingle Comparison of Mesoamerican and Animistic Analog Systems of the Northwest Amazon
Otaegui, Alfonso Manuel
Animism
Reciprocity
Analog system
Analogism
Analogismo
Animismo
Reciprocidad
Sistema analogismo
title_short Comparison of Mesoamerican and Animistic Analog Systems of the Northwest Amazon
title_full Comparison of Mesoamerican and Animistic Analog Systems of the Northwest Amazon
title_fullStr Comparison of Mesoamerican and Animistic Analog Systems of the Northwest Amazon
title_full_unstemmed Comparison of Mesoamerican and Animistic Analog Systems of the Northwest Amazon
title_sort Comparison of Mesoamerican and Animistic Analog Systems of the Northwest Amazon
dc.creator.none.fl_str_mv Otaegui, Alfonso Manuel
author Otaegui, Alfonso Manuel
author_facet Otaegui, Alfonso Manuel
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dc.subject.none.fl_str_mv Animism
Reciprocity
Analog system
Analogism
Analogismo
Animismo
Reciprocidad
Sistema analogismo
topic Animism
Reciprocity
Analog system
Analogism
Analogismo
Animismo
Reciprocidad
Sistema analogismo
description Starting from Descola's ideas (Par-déla Nature et Culturc: 2005), we make a comparison between an analogic system, the ~Vahuas from Mexico, and the systems from the Northwest Amazon that create problems in the classification because -altough described as animists- they resemble the analogists ones. Our main goal is tofind out what kind of systems could be generated by the different modes of identification, and if these configurations can explain these similarities. After underlying their logic components, we describe the systems that organise them. Although both of them -the Nahuas and the Northwest Amazon- have the ideas of circular causality, anorder organising /he relationships between the components o/ the world, the notion that individual actions dangerously affect the whole, these would be just surface effects,from systems whose components are too closely relaled. Even though there is a difference of intensity between both configurations, the harder version would be the Nahuas-one system, components below the level of individuality, idea of balance- and the softer one the Northwest Antmon-systein and sub-systems, conponents at the level of individuality. idea of stability-.We believe this difference of intensity is based on their difference in theirs modes of identification.
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spelling Comparison of Mesoamerican and Animistic Analog Systems of the Northwest AmazonComparación de sistemas analogistas mesoamericanos y animistas del noroeste amazónicoOtaegui, Alfonso ManuelAnimismReciprocityAnalog systemAnalogismAnalogismoAnimismoReciprocidadSistema analogismoStarting from Descola's ideas (Par-déla Nature et Culturc: 2005), we make a comparison between an analogic system, the ~Vahuas from Mexico, and the systems from the Northwest Amazon that create problems in the classification because -altough described as animists- they resemble the analogists ones. Our main goal is tofind out what kind of systems could be generated by the different modes of identification, and if these configurations can explain these similarities. After underlying their logic components, we describe the systems that organise them. Although both of them -the Nahuas and the Northwest Amazon- have the ideas of circular causality, anorder organising /he relationships between the components o/ the world, the notion that individual actions dangerously affect the whole, these would be just surface effects,from systems whose components are too closely relaled. Even though there is a difference of intensity between both configurations, the harder version would be the Nahuas-one system, components below the level of individuality, idea of balance- and the softer one the Northwest Antmon-systein and sub-systems, conponents at the level of individuality. idea of stability-.We believe this difference of intensity is based on their difference in theirs modes of identification.Partiendo de ideas de Descola (Par-délà Nature et Culture: 2005),comparamos un sistema típicamente analogista: el de los nahuas deMéxico con sistemas del noroeste amazónico, que generan problemasen la clasificación, ya que —aunque descritos como animistas— algunosde sus rasgos recuerdan al analogismo. El objetivo principal esdeterminar qué tipos de sistemas pueden generar los diversos modosde identificación, y si esas configuraciones sistémicas pueden explicarlas similitudes entre los casos mencionados. Luego de destacar suscomponentes lógicos describimos los sistemas que los organizan. Sibien ambos —nahuas y noroeste amazónico— coinciden en nociónde causalidad circular, fuerte idea de orden que organiza las relacionesentre los componentes del mundo, la idea de que las accionesindividuales afectan peligrosamente la totalidad, estos serían efectosde superficie de sistemas cuyos elementos están excesivamente relacionados.No obstante, hay una diferencia de grado entre ambasconformaciones, y es la más rígida la de los nahuas —un solo sistema,elementos inferiores a la individualidad, noción de equilibrio— quela del noroeste —sistemas con subsistemas, elementos equivalentesa la individualidad, noción de estabilidad—. Argumentamos que estadiferencia de grado nace en sus diversos modos de identificación.Partindo das idéias de Descola (Par-délà Nature et Culture: 2005),comparamos um sistema típicamente analógista: aquele dos nahuasdo México com sistemas do noroeste amazónico, que generam problemasna clasificação, já que —ainda descritos como animistas— algunsdos seus rasgos lembram o analogismo. O objetivo principalé conhecer qué tipos de sistemas podem generar os diversos modosde identificação, e se esas configurações sistémicas podem explicaras semelhanças entre os casos mencionados. Dépois de destacar oscomponentes lógicos deles describemos os sistemas que os organizam.Mesmo se os dois —nahuas e noroeste amazónico— coincidem emnoção de causalidade circular, idéia forte da ordem que organiza asrelações entre os componentes do mundo, conceito de que as açõesindividuais afeitam peligrosamente a totalidade, estes seríam efeitosde superficie de sistemas onde os elementos estão excesivamenterelacionados. No obstante, há uma diferença de grado entre ambasconformações, e a más rígida é a dos nahuas —um só sistema,elementos inferiores à individualidade, noção de equilibrio— que ado noroeste —sistemas com subsistemas, elementos equivalentes àindividualidade, noção de estabilidade—. Argumentamos que estadiferença de grado parte dos modos diversos de identificação.Pontificia Universidad Católica del Perú2008-03-29info:eu-repo/semantics/articleinfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersionapplication/pdfhttp://revistas.pucp.edu.pe/index.php/anthropologica/article/view/1616Anthropologica del Departamento de Ciencias Sociales; Vol. 26 No. 26 (2008); 143-172Anthropologica; Vol. 26 Núm. 26 (2008); 143-1722224-64280254-9212reponame:Revistas - Pontificia Universidad Católica del Perúinstname:Pontificia Universidad Católica del Perúinstacron:PUCPspahttp://revistas.pucp.edu.pe/index.php/anthropologica/article/view/1616/1561info:eu-repo/semantics/openAccessoai:ojs.pkp.sfu.ca:article/16162020-04-06T21:20:51Z
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